“For all our dreams of a final certainty, after three full centuries of science the only thing we can ultimately be certain of is the world disclosed to us by our direct sensory experience,” says Deep Ecology author David Abram in this awe-inspiring interview conducted by Derrick Jensen. “I suspect that the most we can really attain, with humility and humor, is a richer relationship, a deeper reciprocity with the persons, beings, and elements that surround us and compose—with us—our world.”

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